It is strange that what you are going through is what I am going through. I have the same gripe with a clients, the failure to understand what ‘design’ and web design are and the difference between, is forcing me to ‘hide’ behind the code (application development over web design),,,

My biggest problem is this, correct me if I am wrong. I believe a web designer designs a website to be consumed by not the client but his/her’s consumers. This is distinction has let me to drop clients who fail to understand just that, because at the end of the day, one ends up creating something that pleases the client but the consumer will say, ‘err do you have print version that fits onto a4 paper without images?’,,, and you think back,,, ‘if i had not used frames, but the client wanted…” ,,, anyway no more ranting,,,

oh, if you wishlist can become a standard,,, that would be fantastic,,, maybe one should try to educate the client before accepting the contract,,, and tell them it’s a ‘take it or leave it class’,,,, that would be nice.

Ahem.